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's one of the worst things i found out. that depressed me a great deal. this came out of the fbi records. there is material there suggesting that j. edgar hoover really organized a campaign among some of his agents to talk publicly, loud voices, about how adlai stevenson was gay. and hoover did keep a file on stevenson. you know that he had this special closet of stuff in his office. and he would also tell fbi agents to try to circulate this in chicago. so this is one of these sort of hidden rumors that in '52 nobody talked about this openly; it was too soon. but there was a lot of whispering around about how adlai stevenson was gay. and this was totally untrue and totally unfair. and so when we think about dirty campaigns, i think we've got to remember 1952 as a very dirty campaign. c-span: you say that near the end he ballooned to 200 pounds. >> guest: 220 pounds, yeah. c-span: what was his normal weight when he was governor? >> guest: probably about 160, 180. c-span: what happened? >> guest: well, i think the last part of his life he really became somewhat obsessive. he did have a fam
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